My Experience with the AIP to Treat Lichen Planus
May 26, 2012 in Sarah's Personal AI Struggles, Specific Autoimmune Diseases
Many of you have expressed your frustration that you are not seeing improvement in your autoimmune disease despite following the Autoimmune Protocol. I have tried to give you a realistic timeframe for how long healing may take to help you find some patience with the process. I also thought that recounting my own experience with the Autoimmnue Protocol may be helpful for you.
As I reflect on the health conditions I suffered from in my early-twenties to early-thirties, what once seemed like disparate conditions suffered by a genetically weak me, I now clearly see as the linear progression of inflammation and autoimmune disease resulting from a gradually worsening leaky gut, developing adrenal fatigue and developing metabolic syndrome. Rather than being the result of weak genetics, I now see it as the result of poor diet, extreme stress, and a misguided exercise routine. My chief autoimmune complaint is a skin condition called lichen planus. Purple-red, ridiculously itchy to the point of painful lesions in the mucosal layer of my skin appear predominantly on my ankles and wrists, but also on my shins, forearms and even torso. Although I have never been tested, it is likely that I have lesions in internal mucosal tissues as well, namely the gut mucosa. If this is the case, this means that my leaky gut has caused inflammatory lesions in my gut which would make my gut leakier, definitely a vicious cycle.
I have had lichen planus lesions for a little over 10 years. Many (but not all) of them disappeared while I was pregnant (autoimmunity is suppressed during pregnancy) and nursing (and I was pregnant or nursing for 5¾ years straight), but they returned with a vengeance last summer when my youngest daughter night-weaned and suddenly went from nursing 12 times per day to only once or twice per day (this doctor-ordered forced night weaning is a topic for a future post). They got even worse in December when my daughter weaned completely (self-weaned, phew!). The standard treatment is potent steroid creams applied 2-4 times per day. Stubborn lesions can be injected with steroids and oral steroids are always an option. No doctor ever mentioned that this was an autoimmune condition (and I had 5 different PCPs in 5 different cities during this time).
Researching solutions for my lichen planus brought me to paleo. The dramatic improvement I saw to other health conditions inspired me to start this blog. Performing research for this blog brought me to the realization that I had an autoimmune disease and that I should be following the Autoimmune Protocol. I can’t tell you how thankful I am to all of you for your part in this discovery. I am optimistic that I have finally figured out what foods and other lifestyle factors my body needs to be healthy, and that is some very powerful knowledge. Unfortunately, I suspect that I will never be able to eat eggs, almonds, or tomatoes again. I do seem to handle the occasional egg yolk, small amounts of spices that are ground seeds, small amounts of paprika which is from the nightshade family but is quite low in capsaicin, the occasional square of dark chocolate as long as it doesn’t contain soy lecithin, and the occasional dose of macadamia nuts which are low in phytic acid and polyunsaturated fats.
I started the autoimmune protocol at the beginning of January, with frequent slips in my resolve over the first few months (gradually getting better at really following the Autoimmune Protocol). It’s hard to be surrounded by tasty paleo baking, even feeling compelled to continue experimenting with recipes using ingredients I can’t eat. But even though I was struggling with compliance, I did see some improvement in my lichen planus lesions, albeit small and extremely slow. I also watched my weight creep up. I’m not sure if my weight creeping up was a result of not getting enough sleep during this time, mostly not eating breakfast during this time, or eating too much fat and not enough protein during this time—but I suspect that allowing myself to gain some weight was critical in also providing my body with the energy and micronutrients required to heal. And as I got better and better at avoiding eggs, nuts, seeds, and nightshades, I noticed more easily the negative effects when I did eat them. My lichen planus became an excellent litmus for foods I can’t handle. These obvious reactions made it easier to avoid those foods. And as time as past, I have found more foods to eat and stopped skipping meals because I simply couldn’t think of what to make.
The last 3 weeks have seen an absolutely profound improvement to my lichen planus. Other than the one lesion on my ankle that has been there the most consistently and for the longest time, which now looks like a scar (actually, it might be a scar!), you wouldn’t notice anything amiss about my ankles, wrists, shins or forearms (unless you were looking really closely, but that would be weird think for you to do!). I can still see the dry, inflamed skin that still needs to heal. It’s not all the way there, but it’s such an amazing difference (all with no steroids too!) that I finally have that confidence that I am eating the right way. Oh, and my weight has started dropping again too. It could be that I’m sleeping better, eating breakfast, and eating more protein. But I think that reducing the inflammation in my body, which is allowing my hormones to normalize, is a critical component of this weight loss (the real test will be if my weight drops below my lightest, which is only 2 pounds away now). I should have taken a “before” photo, but who wants to document their ugly ankles? This is a current photo of my ankle though (I literally just took it!):
My husband was shocked at how great my ankles look when I pointed it out to him about a week ago. If you want to see what my lichen planus looked like before, you can check out this online pamphlet from the American Academy of Dermatology (the front photo looks like my smaller lesions; I had many lesions that were ½” in diameter and even one that was over 1”).
What has changed in the last 3 weeks to account for this sudden improvement? There are a couple of other things that I think have really helped, beyond finally getting to 100% compliance with the Autoimmune Protocol. First, I started getting alot more sun exposure. I try and always at least roll up my pant legs to my shins and wear a tank top. I try and go outside with my kids at least 30 minutes per day. The beach trip for Mother’s Day weekend gave me LOTS more sun exposure than normal. Our neighborhood pool is now open and I am bringing the kids for a swim at least twice per week. And I am still taking 10,000IU of Vitamin D3 a day (which my doctor thinks is extreme). I am eating alot of organ meat, especially beef heart which is rich in collagen (which means rich in proline and glycine, those amino acids that are so vital for healing skin and connective tissues). I eat organ meat for at least one meal every day. I am drinking more bone broth (1 cup most days). I am mostly eating grass-fed meat and wild-caught fish (still some conventional poultry and pork in my diet, but I’m doing my best with my budget). I have stopped sprinting for now, thinking that it might have been too much stress on my body, but I am still walking, playing with my kids, and going to 3 yoga classes per week.
Was it all these tweaks that made everything come together for me? Maybe, but I also think that those 4 months of not seeing much improvement were actually important. I suspect that, during those 4 months, my gut was healing, my body was gradually decreasing antibody production, and inflammation was resolving. I think it took that time for my insides to heal to a point where I could see improvement on the outside. As an aside, I have noticed that my mood has been noticeably better these last few weeks too (more vitamin D or less inflammation in my brain or both?). The Autoimmune Protocol is working for me. But it’s tough and it’s slow. So, when I advocate patience, know that it comes from experience.






































Thanks for posting your story. I’m currently dealing with treating adrenal burnout and hoping to heal severe seasonal allergies. Questions: What about the GAPS diet protocol for gut healing? Do you personally agree with using that to determine one’s ability to handle certain foods? Also, I have severe seasonal allergies (that are now year-round). That is the only autoimmune condition I have (as far as I know). Would you consider that a reason to do the autoimmune protocol or are we talking about more severe conditions?
(Thanks again, I love how informative your posts are!)
I think that the principles behind the GAPS diets are quite sound, and I recommend aspects of GAPS in conjunction with paleo for treating Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth. I like the focus on bone broth and non-starchy vegetables especially.
Your severe allergies may improve once your adrenals are working properly again with just straight paleo. But I think you would likely see faster improvement in both adrenal function and in your allergies if you went full autoimmune protocol for a short period of time (maybe 2 months?), especially focusing on lots of vegetables and omega-3-rich protein sources.
I’m curious what your protocol is for treating the adrenal burnout?
I am working with a doctor (of Chinese Medicine) and following the Nutritional Balancing protocol. I had a hair mineral analysis to determine the level of my adrenals and found out I was in ‘burnout’ — low in all of my minerals (also high in mercury and aluminum).
The protocol is: I can’t have any fruit or sugar of any type. (they do allow stevia & xylitol unlike GAPS/Paleo). Also– I’m eating high protein and low carb–no gluten (mostly grain free)–winter squash and carrots are okay. I’m taking heavy doses of minerals (specific to this program), kidney support, enzymes, probiotics and taurine (along with fermented cod liver oil). I’m supposed to lie down flat as often as possible and pretend I’m on perpetual vacation (of course I have a nursing toddler and a 4 year old–so not that easy!)
I know I need to heal my gut too. I’ve been meaning to go back on GAPS (which I was on last year at this time). I need to go through the Intro diet (which I didn’t do fully because I was nursing more often then). I’m REALLY resisting it! The Autoimmune Protocol sounds even harder! I think I just feel so deprived …I’ve been limiting my diet for so long… (whine!) But it’s not just the deprivation–it’s also the expense of good quality meat and the amount of food preparation. I’m already so spent (hence the adrenal burnout) that making absolutely everything from scratch doesn’t leave me a moment to lie down in the day. (which I can only do when both kids are sleeping for a short time anyway!).
Sorry for rambling… I really appreciate your feedback and posts!
Sounds rough! I guess the only pro for going full autoimmune protocol is that, even though you would feel even more deprived, you might be able to speed up recovery (of course, there is no way to test that). and even though the meat is more expensive, if it works, you could save money on supplements (you also get to eat some fruit on AIP). But I think your approach will work (although stay away from the stevia!!!!). The only things that I would add is to make sure you eat every 4-5 hours (the whole spacing out meals thing is not good for adrenal fatigue) and do what you can to maximize your sleep (quality and quantity). I hope it works for you (and quickly!!!). Keep me posted on how you’re doing and always feel free to ask questions.
I read your sugar post: http://www.thepaleomom.com/2012/03/is-sugar-paleo.html
What exactly is the issue with stevia or xylitol? Are they gut irritants? Do you know from experience or is there some research out there?
I totally agree with just using the real thing– it’s just that I’m not supposed to have any sugar/fruit, so my dr. recommends stevia & xylitol for ‘treats’ as needed. Thanks!
A couple of reasons. Sugar substitutes can mess with your insulin (your body releases insulin in response to the sweet taste in anticipation of glucose, but then there isn’t any glucose). The structure of stevia closely resembles a steroid hormone, and there just isn’t any long term safety data on frequent consumption (just because it is derived from a leaf doesn’t make it safe to eat, even though people use that rationale alot). Sugar alcohols like xylitol can be gut irritants.
Cinnamon can trick your taste buds into thinking something is sweeter than it is (and as far as I know, this doesn’t seem to trigger insulin release). You could try mixing some into the top, fatty half of a can of full-fat coconut milk that has been sitting still for a while as a nice treat. Also, Make It Paleo has a neat recipe for truffles made with mint oil and coconut cream concentrate. Here is the link to the recipe: http://beta.primal-palate.com/recipe/chocolate-and-peppermint-swirl-truffles/ And I’ve heard good things about the 99% cocoa Bernard Castalain Chocolate Noire Infini bars. I hope this helps!
I am so happy to find your post! I was recently diagnosed this week with Lichen Planus, but have been aware of it for a couple of months. I am toying with the idea of going full on Paleo to help treat it. I am about 85% Paleo right now. I will be looking at your post you linked to regarding the AIP. Thanks for the information!
I have had oral lichen planus for about 1 1/2 years now. I’ve been considering the GAPS diet. What are your feelings regarding total remission or healing using the AIP or GAPS diet? Do you think it can be done or do you think you will need to follow this diet for the rest of your life see the improvements that you’ve seen?
I think either GAPS intro of AIP (which are pretty close to the same thing) are effective at controling lichen planus in conjunction with getting lots of sleep and vitamin D. I’m still on the AIP. I have reintroduced some nuts successfully, but every thing else still seems off limits. I don’t think the whole thing is forever for everyone. But I do think it’s at least a few months, if not a couple of years, long commitment. Probiotics seems particularly important with skin autoimmune disease and I’m experimenting with some soil based probiotics now.
I have oral lichen planus. It acts up frequently. I was on GAPS, and it started to get better, but I felt sluggish, so I stopped. Now it’s back again. It only took 7 days. So, I’m back on GAPS, but I cannot a lot of foods. My skin is fragile inside my mouth. Citrus fruits bother me. I just ate a peice of organge no bigger than a quarter. I forgot that I cannot eat that. My cheeks and gums are sore and swollen to the point where all I can eat is pureed food like butternut squash or celery root and some bone broth. I love your blog. I have researched all over the internet to find a cure for this. You have posted the most thorough information that I have seen and the way that is is presented and layed out is a way that I process information. I’m so very grateful that you have done this. Thank you.
Sarah,
Do you mind me asking about your lichen planus. Did you have it on your nails also? I was recently diagnosed, but I have it on my scalp, eyebrows and toenails. Did you ever try any “conventional treatments” ? Thank you so much for your blog. The information you have shared with us is invaluable.
I get it on my wrists, ankles, forearms and shins. Before paleo, I tried a couple of prescription strength topical steroids’ and used to wrap my wrists and ankles in plastic wrap to increase absorption of the steroid. I was pn oral steroids a few times, but mostly for breathing/asthma issues rather than the lichen planus. Now, I use coconut oil and that’s it (also completely a symptomatic in terms of my asthma).
Hello,
My littley 5 y/o boy was just diagnosed with Lichen Planus its on his feet and arms. He also has eczema. The eczema was not well controlled to start, and now we have the Lichen Diagnosis. I’ve tested him for allergies, he doesn’t have any to food and only to blooming trees.
I feel terrible for him, I know I need to to do something beyond steroids. Topical steroids are not helping. I am not sure what the trigger is for him, but I know that we have to do something. I would really appreciate any guidance you might have.
Tamara–have you tried a paleo diet?
No. That’s what I am confused about. Should I do the autoimmune protocol? Or just the paleo.
Also, I read an entry on your site about going to a natuopath to get tested for food intolerances.
I am overwhelmed because there are a lot of options.
I would start with a standard paleo diet and see how that goes. It’s a nice stepping stone to the autoimmune protocol but also might be sufficient to see substantial improvement on its own. Also making sure to include more bone broth, organ meat, fish, and a source of probiotics (either fermented foods or a supplement) will give you the best chance of seeing improvement. I’d give that 2-3 months before tackling the autoimmune protocol. Good luck!
Thank you. That’s helpful..
Hey Paleo mom, my name is Allen House I am a 28 year old man and I am currently living at Ft. Benning GA. I have been suffering from LP for about 8 years now and it has been awful. Luckily I do not currently have Oral LP, but what I do have sucks! It first appeared in 2005 and I thought that it was something that I had gotten into while I was conducting training in the field. I went to the dermatologist and they took samples and told me they were not sure what it was. So for about 7 years or so I just did my best to ignore it and it was just predominantly on my shins heavily and would subside sometimes for a few months at a time. Well about 7 to 8 months ago I guess it decided to have its way with me
What I had on my shins just went beserk and covered almost all of my legs. It is now all over my arms and it is on my stomach and back. The parts that are on my arms and stomach and back are not as sever as what is on my shins. My arms and legs kind of look like I have really bad heat bumps. My shins are terribly itchy to the point that I create sores some times all over my legs because I can not just resist the itching. When I first found it in 2005 my dermatologist put me on a powerful steroid cream and had me wrap my legs with ace bandages, it did not seem to help at all and I did that for about 3 to 4 months. But what it did do was now my shins and the skin on my legs are very weak. If I bump into anything with my legs the skin just peals right off. When I had the flare up about 7 months ago I went back to a dermatologist here at Ft. Benning and he informed me that I had LP. He put me on some type of medicine that I believe they put people with psoriasis on. Basically it makes you sensitive to the sun lowered night vision and other crazy side affects like that. I took that for about a month with very little results other than having super dry skin. Being in the Army I can not afford to have decreased night vision so I stopped the medicine. I do have some of the same problems on my private part but I have yet to talk to the dermatologist about that. It is kind of similar to what is on my legs other than not near as severe. The bumps on my arms are the typical small bumps that are shiny and do scale a little. But on my legs and my private the spots are like large rings that are shiny and do scale. My legs being by far the worst and the worst looking. If anyone else out there are having the same issues and or have had this similar stuff happen to them please offer as much advice as you would like. Because I have read that we can not be cured of it be damn there must be some kind of relief! Please Help! Sorry this message is so long and thank you for your time to read this. I type really fast and wanted to share my experience with others to see if I should go to a certain type of dermatologist that might specialize in LP. I have also ready about LS (Lichen Sclerosus) and I am not sure if I might have that or maybe both I just do not know. I think the hard part of the paleo will be that I am in the Army and I work so much and I am always on the go. Alot of times when in the field we can only eat what we are given. I am also very very picky and trust me I dont like that about my self. I have not eaten vegetables since I was a kid
If it isnt the taste I dont like it is the texture. From the picture on you ankle that is exactly what I have except on my shins it is like that times a thousand
Any suggestions would be so very helpful. Thanks sorry so long again lol.
Oh man that sucks! Mine started as a few patches on the inside of my wrists (could be hidden with a watch and bracelet) and my ankles and stayed that way for a long time. Every time they flared, they would spread. The last time they went all the way up my shins and forearms, with a few spots on my torso too. I also at one point has super powerful steroid creams and wrapped my ankles and wrists in plastic wrap for sleeping. And I don’t think it helped much either. Sigh.
So, I can’t recommend enough addressing diet, stress and sleep. In terms of diet, I would recommend two things above all else. Going gluten-free as much as you can (I know you won’t always have control over this) and even more importantly focusing on nutrient density. This means eating lots of organ meat, fish, shellfish and vegetables (okay, so maybe you can try a different way to cook them, or smoothies, or green juices or grind them up and hide them in a burger or something to get yourself to eat them!). Regular meat and fruit and good too. I would do whatever you can to keep your stress levels managed and prioritize getting as much sleep as you possible can. Then, whatever else you can do as part of the autoimmune protocol is going to be worth while. But nutrient density and sleep are the most important. You might try a collagen supplement (I like Great Lakes http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091MQ5IE?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=B0091MQ5IE&linkCode=xm2&tag=wwwthepaleomo-20), a probiotic (I like Prescript Assist http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0049NRWHS?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=B0049NRWHS&linkCode=xm2&tag=wwwthepaleomo-20) and a digestive enzymes with your meals (I like Enriching Gifts http://secure.ttpurchase.com/D410530F-1E0B-90B3-0E0C8CEEE54A3E8E but I hear that NOW Foods Super Enzymes are great too).
There may be no cure, but you can put this disease into remission, which feels like the same thing. Hang in there!
Thanks so much for your reply! This info is so much more than any doctors have given me. To think I have lived the last 8 years with just dealing with it and ignoreing it haha. O boy the stress part might be the onlything I wont be able to fix haha my life is always stressful. If it is not normal life problems then the Army is trying to make us tougher and stressing us on purpose haha. I really think stress may be one of the main causes of it flareing up about 7 months ago because things were really crazy. And now things have started to calm down and my LP is defiantly looking better than it has in months. Now to just get this diet fiqured out
Thanks again for your time and your input I cant wait to try and get some time of diet going to see how much it helps. Also one more question I see that you were preping for marathons and such. Well I am a pretty hardcore gym rat and I like to lift really heavy and gain weight being that I have been pretty small my whole life. I was 145 pounds most of my life and now I am up to about 185 and working towards 195. Do you think the diet will make it harder for me to gain weight and strength or help it?
When you’re stressed, your need for magnesium and vitamin-C increase. You can help your body by taking those as supplements. If you are eating enough vegetables (I know, but they are really important), good proteins, fruit and good fats, you’ll still be able to bulk up.